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What's the deal with MR's

  • Why can't the airline just let you book any available fare, call them and tell them its a MR, and not make you show up for the flight. The FF gets its miles, and the Airline smiles all the way to the bank.

    Some have even said MR is against Delta rules. That just sounds crazy.

    What is it about MR I dont understand? :D


  • Do you think those folks should be competing with the same flyers that go out and fly 100,000 miles a year?

    Nicely put. Moral of the story - you can't buy EXP ^ . I'm trying for EXP on segments and it's a bit tough when the upgrade does not clear.


  • US saw the light with it's STT fare error. ^

    Yeah. That was nice of them as it would have been a long day indeed for the STT return...


  • Well, in the case of recent $110 SFO-JFK, with about 20 of those you'd be EXP for $2,200, getting 8 systemwides and the perks of top tier. If you didn't have to fly, the ranks of EXP would probably quadruple overnight.

    Do you think those folks should be competing with the same flyers that go out and fly 100,000 miles a year?


  • Forcing the passenger to fly means the airline prevents ticket buyers to simply buy miles for cheap(er) than what the airline sells at 'retail' prices.

    Miles have a value, to both the FF member and the airline. In the mentioned SFO-NYC $110 fare example, not only can one buy 20 tickets to get top tier if this was allowed, but someone could actually buy a ticket for every single day, and without flying, amass a large number of miles, for a low cost, much less than one would have to pay to buy from the airline. And that person wouldn't even have to be near SFO or NYC.

    Ultimately, forcing one to fly to earn the miles puts limitations on the number of miles one can get by buying cheap tickets (location and time limitations).


  • If the airlines want to sell status directly, then they would, just as they have done before. That the airlines decide not to give status on the basis of unflown paid tickets is their business, their way of managing how many and which kind of flyers there are that have status with them. Poor decision or not, most airlines seem pretty content so far with not selling status in exchange for unflown paid tickets.


  • Well, wait, you are forgetting the fuel cost to the airline of having your bum in their seat, any food/booze consumed, w&T on the seat, etc, etc. Plus the overhead at the airport, TSA, etc, etc.


  • US saw the light with it's STT fare error. ^


  • Here's a question that gets asked often...


  • Forcing the passenger to fly means the airline prevents ticket buyers to simply buy miles for cheap(er) than what the airline sells at 'retail' prices.

    Miles have a value, to both the FF member and the airline. In the mentioned SFO-NYC $110 fare example, not only can one buy 20 tickets to get top tier if this was allowed, but someone could actually buy a ticket for every single day, and without flying, amass a large number of miles, for a low cost, much less than one would have to pay to buy from the airline. And that person wouldn't even have to be near SFO or NYC.

    Ultimately, forcing one to fly to earn the miles puts limitations on the number of miles one can get by buying cheap tickets (location and time limitations).
    Makes sense ... thanks all!


  • Who really cares?

    Frankly, if you don't ride on the plane they can re-sell your seat and become financially more viable. Or there is more 02 and less F2, you know?

    Like winning a pie-eating contest where the prize is more pie.....







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